Rector Smithfield, NC By Mary Frances SchjonbergPosted Jan 23, 2017 Richard Warren says: Comments are closed. The Church Investment Group Commends the Taskforce on the Theology of Money on its report, The Theology of Money and Investing as Doing Theology Church Investment Group January 23, 2017 at 8:38 pm First, after eight years of his presidency, you might at least know that President Obama’s first name is Barack, not Barrack. Second, I, too, pray that the Holy Spirit may guide President Trump and his administration toward a humane, reasoned and balanced response to the needs and legitimate concerns of all the people of the United States and the larger world–not just his followers and financial supporters. James Stickton says: In-person Retreat: Thanksgiving Trinity Retreat Center (West Cornwall, CT) Nov. 24-28 January 23, 2017 at 10:33 am We pray. For all. Unceasingly. For all. January 24, 2017 at 6:44 pm Our mission statement of the episcopal diocese of Atlanta is “Love like Jesus” so it seems to me that means to love everybody, including our enemies or ones we don’t like. I think no thought shoutout even given to whether we name Donald Trump in our POP. HE NEED AS MANY PRAYERS AS WE CAN GIVE HIM. After presidential power shifts, Episcopalians ask: How should we pray? Debating purpose, intention of praying for Donald Trump in church Curate Diocese of Nebraska Seminary of the Southwest announces appointment of two new full time faculty members Seminary of the Southwest Dr. William A. Flint, MDiv, PhD says: Youth Minister Lorton, VA January 24, 2017 at 2:08 pm Will anyone be praying for the continued recovery and life of George Bush the first ? January 23, 2017 at 7:02 pm Pray for President Donald Trump by name? You bet! I despise his racist and misogynistic statements to the press. His treatment of women characterization of menus dispicable. I see an unrivalled arrogance that bespeaks a dangerous insecurity. But pray for him by name. All of us stand in need of continued transformation. If God can love then certainly Donald Trump. Priest Associate or Director of Adult Ministries Greenville, SC Jan rigsby says: Join the Episcopal Diocese of Texas in Celebrating the Pauli Murray Feast Online Worship Service June 27 March 23, 2017 at 5:40 pm How do we pray for THIS president? The same way we’ve prayed for all presidents and world leaders, whether we agreed with them or not. We pray for God to guide them to have the wisdom to make wise decisions, the strength to make difficult decisions and carry them out, the courage to stand strong against evil and corruption, the compassion to care about the welfare of all. This is how I prayed for the last president even though I disagreed with every decision he made, including his decision for the twenty-two years before coming to the White House to sit in a church in front of a clergyperson who spewed venom and hatred, and his decision NOT to attend church during his presidency. This, to me, is not Christianity.This president plans to serve God by making America strong again. Because we are only human and not also divine as was Jesus, we must lead from a position of strength to encourage those countries that have no respect for human rights to do better for all people. This president wants to make America a better place for all by keeping businesses in business, thus ensuring jobs and salaries that will allow people here to care for themselves and their families with dignity rather than demeaning them by expecting them to exist on money taken from those who are working. This president wants all people in each nation to be able to be proud of their own successful nations by taking care of themselves rather than expecting to be taken care of. As a Christian who believes that Jesus Christ is the Way, I am most excited that THIS president intends to restore respect for Christianity rather than apologizing for his Christian beliefs and our nation’s Judeo-Christian heritage. We respect other faiths, but I do not respect an ideology that endorses abuse of women, children, homosexuals, and anyone who does not believe in exactly the same ideology as it does and even promotes killing those individuals.When America is strong and secure again, we the people will have the ability to then turn our attention outward again. But until we can take care of ourselves, we cannot take care of others. Press Release Service Assistant/Associate Priest Scottsdale, AZ Cathedral Dean Boise, ID January 24, 2017 at 1:12 pm Please find it in your heart to forgive me for a typo. I, alas, am not perfect. Comments (25) The Book of Common Prayer calls for Episcopalians to pray for the nation and those in authority (page 359). Photo: Mary Frances Schjonberg/Episcopal News Service[Episcopal News Service] When Bishop Jeff Lee wrote to Episcopalians in the Diocese of Chicago after the November election, he asked that they pray for Donald Trump, as well as all elected officials and for the church.One recipient asked him to stop telling people to admire the president-elect. Such admiration was not what Lee was after, but only prayer, he told the recipient. Yet, he said in an interview with Episcopal News Service, the person’s reaction gave him a clue about the intensity of the reactions to Trump’s election.The dialogue between Lee and a member of his diocese is not an isolated incident. Since Trump’s election in November, many Episcopalians have asked what it means to pray for the 45th U.S. president during public worship, how to do it, and, for some, even whether to offer such prayers at all.For some Episcopalians, there is no debate: they will pray for Trump whether they are happy to have him as president or not. While some congregations that are in the habit of praying for the president by name might end that practice; for others, it is a foregone conclusion that such specificity will continue.In social media and congregational discussions, other Episcopalians make the distinction between praying for the office of the president, not the individual. Some say that they cannot abide Trump being named in the liturgy because hearing his name triggers trauma for some congregants considering his past sexual, misogynist and racial comments, and general behavior during the campaign and since. Still others say that one cannot separate praying for the office and the officeholder; they know who is in that office whether or not they name him.Does praying for the president imply blessing, commending or accepting that person’s behavior or politics, others wonder. Or is praying for God to guide this incoming president or any president exactly what Christians ought to be doing?What the Book of Common Prayer and the Bible sayThe Book of Common Prayer is clear, in as far as it goes. The second of the six rubrics that standardize the Prayers of the People in the Rite II Eucharistic liturgy (page 359) requires petitions for “the Nation and all in authority.” The rubrics do not require leaders to be prayed for by name.Of the six suggested Rite II forms for those prayers, only a bidding in Form I makes specific mention of “our President.” Form V is the only one that gives an option of praying for “those in positions of public trust” by name.Holy Eucharist Rite I’s single Prayers of the People form gives the option of praying by name for “those who bear the authority of government.”Presumably, congregations that adapt the prayer book’s forms or use other forms for the Prayers of the People follow the categories listed in the prayer book rubrics.The Book of Common Prayer also contains prayers for use in any liturgy or for private prayer, including nine “Prayers for National Life” (pages 821-823) and two “Thanksgivings for National Life” (pages 838-839).The first of the six forms of the Prayers of the People in Rite II’s Eucharistic liturgy includes a petition for the president (page 384). Photo: Mary Frances Schjonberg/Episcopal News ServiceMany Episcopalians root their Prayers of the People decisions in Scripture. They reference Matthew 5:43-48 in which Jesus tells his followers to “love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you.”They also cite Paul’s admonition to the Romans not to be overcome by evil but to overcome evil with good (Romans 12:21), as well as the next verse (Romans 13:1) in which Paul says Christians should obey “the governing authorities.” Some point to 1 Timothy 2:1-4 in which the author calls on Christians to pray for “kings and all who are in high positions.”Is this a test?A thread running through many of these discussions is whether this prayer debate is a test of Episcopalians’ faithfulness to the Gospel.“This is when religion gets real,” Presiding Bishop Michael Curry told Episcopal News Service in a recent interview. When facing questions such as this, Curry said Christians must confront their understanding of their identity in Christ.“If we are living into being a part of the movement of Jesus of Nazareth, following his footsteps and his spirit, his way; if that’s who we are; and, if that’s what baptism is about, then I’ve got to be better than myself even when I don’t want to be,” he said, including honoring the scriptural imperative to pray for those who have wronged you, or worse.“When we are praying for Donald or Barack … we’re praying for their well-being, to be sure as people, but we’re praying for their leadership; that they will lead in justice, that they will lead in goodness,” he said.The fifth of the six forms of the Rite II Prayers of the People includes an option to name “those in positions of public trust” (page 390). Photo: Mary Frances Schjonberg/Episcopal News ServiceThe Rev. Devon Anderson, rector of Trinity Episcopal Church in Excelsior, Minnesota, told ENS that the debate over the Prayers of the People also goes to the heart of Anglican/Episcopal theology about corporate prayer.“When we come to the altar to pray on Sunday morning, we pray with one voice. We pray the same words, we sing the same hymns, we cup our hands and receive the same bread. Most importantly, we pray for justice,” Anderson said. “Even the prayers that pray for our elected leaders by name have within them prayers for justice.”Those prayers call upon elected officials to work for the common good with an eye toward justice and a preference for the poor, she said. “All leaders – no matter their platform, fallibilities, exploits, abuses or policies – are in need of those prayers,” Anderson added.Praying or protesting?Curry told ENS that praying for leaders and challenging them to change are not mutually exclusive. “I grew up having to pray for leaders that were encouraging Jim Crow segregation and I was the one being segregated, but we did it anyway,” he said.During the civil rights movement, Curry said, people “prayed and protested at the same time.”“We got on our knees in church and prayed for them, and then we got up off our knees and we marched on Washington,” he said.Jack Douglas said he has prayed daily for previous presidents and he will pray for Trump. “This does not mean that I won’t criticize,” wrote Douglas, who lives in Fayetteville, Arkansas. “I’ll always criticize, but I’ll also pray.”Anderson, who also chairs the Episcopal Church’s Standing Commission on Liturgy and Music, believes “church communities must model the kind of justice and engagement we are demanding of our elected leaders,” starting “with corporate prayer which inspires prophetic witness and ministry in our communities on behalf of marginalized people.”While she understands the impulse of a faith community that is unified in its political ideology to refuse to pray for the president by name, Anderson said she serves “a politically diverse congregation that is not of one mind politically.” It also has a 28-year refugee resettlement ministry, a long-standing partnership with indigenous communities and a commitment to racial reconciliation.“We have to be very careful to continue to offer corporate worship that unifies us rather than divides. We will continue to pray for our elected leaders (by name) when the Book of Common Prayer calls for it,” she said. “To me, that is an act of resistance against division.”Trinity also will redouble its outreach efforts in the coming days and years “because the Gospel calls us to those ministries,” she said.The traditionally worded Rite I Eucharistic liturgy gives the option of praying by name for those “who bear the authority of government” (page 329). Photo: Mary Frances Schjonberg/Episcopal News ServiceFor Anderson, the question “is way deeper than proper names in Prayers of the People.”“The question is: How far are we willing to go to help bring about what we are praying for? How much of our hearts (and our time and our resources) are set on the real work and engagement it will take to set things that are wrong in our country, right again?” she told ENS.What’s in a name?The Rev. Elizabeth Kaeton, a longtime activist inside and outside the Episcopal Church who works as a hospice chaplain in Delaware, cannot countenance praying for Trump by name during the liturgy. Praying for Trump by name is different than publicly praying for Barack Obama or George W. Bush, she told ENS.“He has said things that are at odds with the founding principles of this nation: freedom and justice for all. He does not ascribe to that,” Kaeton said, adding that she sees no evidence that Trump respects the dignity of every human being or seeks to serve Christ in all people as the Baptismal Covenant calls for.“How do we as a corporate body pray for someone who is antithetical to our country and our Christian beliefs without at least having a conversation about what that means?” she asked.A recent discussion on ENS’ Facebook page exemplified the division this question raises. For example, Judy Schroder Niederman wrote that, because of how she said Trump “ridicules and bullies others, how he lies, how he threatens,” she “cannot and will not utter that man’s name. Not yet emotionally able to pray for him. I will pray for the office of the presidency.”Alynn Beimford replied, saying for eight years she could not invoke Barack Obama’s name during worship but will “joyfully” use Trump’s.The Rev. Mike Kinman, rector of All Saints Episcopal Church in Pasadena, California, cited the reaction that Trump’s name stirs in some people in his decision to have the parish stop praying for the president by name.“We are rightly charged with praying for our leaders,” Kinman wrote. “But we are also charged with keeping the worshipping community, while certainly not challenge-free, a place of safety from harm.”Kinman likened praying for Trump to requiring an abused woman to pray by name for the person who abused her. “It’s not that the abuser doesn’t need prayer – certainly the opposite – but prayer should never be a trauma-causing act,” he said.He pledged to listen to the congregation and pray about his decision.Kaeton said she hopes this debate “opens up a discussion in congregations as well as nationally about prayer, about the efficacy and the purpose of prayer, and the difference between private prayer and public prayer.”“I hope it gets congregations looking at what they’re doing in their liturgy, and how they’re praying the Prayers of the People and who decides that. Are we just acquiescing to what clergy say?”The Great Litany (page 148), which many Episcopal congregations will use on the First Sunday in Lent, includes a petition for the U.S. president and is specific about the prayer’s intention. Photo: Mary Frances Schjonberg/Episcopal News ServiceThe Rev. Michael Arase-Barham, vicar of Holy Family Episcopal Church in Half Moon Bay, California, and Good Shepherd Episcopal Church in nearby Belmont, agreed such a discussion is necessary.“My immediate instinct is to say I am fascinated that we are talking about whether or not we should be praying instead of praying together,” he told ENS. “However, part of the problem is that, perhaps, we haven’t talked enough about how to pray for our enemies. It’s harder to start praying for your enemies when you have them and it is no longer theoretical.”Following the conversations on social media, Arase-Barham said he has been struck by “how easily we can look down our noses at each other about this. It seems me that prayer ought to be making all of us a little more humble and open towards one another. In some ways, we’re making enemies of our friends on Facebook.”“How can we pray for Trump if we can’t discuss this civilly and spiritually?” he asked.The mysteriously transforming power of prayerArase-Barham suggested congregations ought to talk about the reality that the petitions in the Prayers of the People leave enough room for an individual’s intentions to join with other voices in the praying body. For instance, he said, he focused on different things while praying for George W. Bush or Barack Obama during the liturgy.“The spirit is still able to work in each person in that room praying that prayer, and God is able to work in spite of our desired outcomes through us and through that prayer,” Arase-Barham said.Curry told ENS “to pray for those who are in leadership is to actually unleash energy that absolutely has its source in God and that may touch the human spirit in some way.”The prayer is “not avoiding the reality” for the issues involved but, he said, “it’s actually going deeper; it has a way of freeing the person who is praying from the destructive power of a destructive relationship.”An optional version of the Great Litany found in the authorized “Enriching Our Worship” series includes petitions for all three branches of the U.S. government, and calls for naming the president. Photo: Mary Frances Schjonberg/Episcopal News ServiceThe Rev. Kim Hobby, pastor of Christ Church Episcopal in South Pittsburg, Tennessee, was among those commenting on the ENS website about the nature of prayer. “Prayer changes things, and the first thing it changes is the one who prays,” she wrote. “True prayer changes our hearts of fear and hatred to hearts of courage and love, despite our human instincts. I pray that the hearts of all our leaders, including the president-elect, will be opened to see, hear, and respond compassionately and respectfully to all people at all times and in all places.”Lee, the bishop of Chicago, would agree. “Prayer is, first and foremost, not about asking God to rearrange the universe according to my specifications, but asking God to rearrange me,” he told ENS.In an interview with ENS, the Very Rev. Randolph Hollerith, dean of Washington National Cathedral, said Episcopalians “don’t look at prayer as magic.”“Our prayers are our way of trying to align ourselves to God and to focus ourselves a little bit more into what God may want for us,” he said. “If I believe that God loves every human being to their core; that God loves every human being infinitely, then how can I just pray for those people I agree with when I know that God loves that person I disagree with to a depth I can’t even understand?”Read more about itTime magazine has published Presiding Bishop Michael Curry’s “Why We Must Pray for Donald Trump.”Diocese of Vermont Bishop Tom Ely has issued “A Statement in Support of Prayer & Reconciliation.”Diocese of Missouri Bishop Wayne Smith has written a blog post “Praying for a president by name.”The Very Rev. Michael Sniffen, dean of Cathedral of the Incarnation in Garden City, New York, has written “Prayers for the President: What’s in a Name?”– The Rev. Mary Frances Schjonberg is an editor and reporter for the Episcopal News Service. January 23, 2017 at 9:44 pm Well said. It is sad when we become so divided that we can not recall how those who chose not to accept our current election, chastised those who would not accept out first female PB and those that refused to pray for her. I was taught as a youth that Episcopalians were the via media and we accepted all persons. We have seen major splits in our society, including TEC, and seem to have forgotten or lost God in the process of doing our will. I pray PB Curry can lead us back to our true mission of proclamation of God’s word. January 24, 2017 at 3:27 pm I was raised Baptist, so liturgy , including prayers by by name for the President was not part of my experience. I understand the theology behind the act, but have always sensed an element of supporting the status quo in the actual performance. . It has been suggested that one can both pray and protest. Makes sense, but realistically, will it happen for more than a few? I fear the overall effect of the ritual will be to legitimize actions we would not rationally defend. On Monday, Trump again said it was unfortunate that we did not take the oil when we invaded Iraq, which would have been a war crime. He also implied that it might still be possible. I think these are serious times, and we will need not only theology but reason, especially in the form of an understanding of history, to guide us. Ronald Davin says: Faith & Politics January 23, 2017 at 4:08 pm Amen. I Virginia we’ve had the double whammy of Barrack as well as Governor Terry McCauliffe, perhaps the most odious occupant of that office in the history of the Commonwealth. In both cases a double-dose of prayer is a good idea! Priest-in-Charge Lebanon, OH January 23, 2017 at 8:32 pm Dr. Flint,He may be your President but he’s not mine, Donald Trump tainted and illegitimate because of his campaign’s association with Mr. Putin and the Russian government. Mr. Obama is a decent man, more than I can say about his successor. January 24, 2017 at 7:42 pm Do we pray for the Devil by name? Ron Bryant says: Ronald Davin says: Submit a Press Release Associate Rector Columbus, GA Course Director Jerusalem, Israel Rector Collierville, TN Rector Hopkinsville, KY February 1, 2017 at 4:55 pm As the president of the USA, and one of the most important leaders in the world, how can we justify NOT praying for him. Is he and all the responsibility he carries somehow not worthy of prayers? That is a very dangerous slope to start down. Family Ministry Coordinator Baton Rouge, LA Ya no son extranjeros: Un diálogo acerca de inmigración Una conversación de Zoom June 22 @ 7 p.m. ET Frances Gresley says: Featured Jobs & Calls Assistant/Associate Rector Washington, DC January 24, 2017 at 6:51 pm Our mission statement of the episcopal diocese of Atlanta is “Love like Jesus” so it seems to me that means to love everybody, including our enemies or ones we don’t like. I think no thought should even be given to whether we name Donald Trump in our POP. HE NEED AS MANY PRAYERS AS WE CAN GIVE HIM. H Linda King White says: Rector Bath, NC Curate (Associate & Priest-in-Charge) Traverse City, MI Rector Washington, DC The Church Pension Fund Invests $20 Million in Impact Investment Fund Designed to Preserve Workforce Housing Communities Nationwide Church Pension Group New Berrigan Book With Episcopal Roots Cascade Books January 28, 2017 at 7:39 am The former president’s name is spelled “Barack.” January 27, 2017 at 2:24 pm In our parish, we use a version of the prayers that simply states we pray for all who govern… no specific names needed as God knows for whom we pray. Since we did not name any of our previous two Presidents, naming one now would be inconsistent. January 23, 2017 at 10:40 pm If my Lord and Savior walked the earth today, I’m sure he would associate and pray with our Commander and Chief, Donald Trump. What gives us the right to discriminate as Christians, who we pray for. I feel sorry for those who refuse to speak his name in prayer. Whether they voted for him or not, it’s time to pray he does a good job,for the future of our country. Steven Van Pelt says: Charles Jett says: Dale Peterson says: Rector Pittsburgh, PA This Summer’s Anti-Racism Training Online Course (Diocese of New Jersey) June 18-July 16 Rector Albany, NY walter woodson says: Stuart Kenworthy says: Inaugural Diocesan Feast Day Celebrating Juneteenth San Francisco, CA (and livestream) June 19 @ 2 p.m. PT Rector (FT or PT) Indian River, MI Rector Shreveport, LA walter woodson says: Debra Goebel says: Karen G. Frost says: Director of Administration & Finance Atlanta, GA TryTank Experimental Lab and York St. John University of England Launch Survey to Study the Impact of Covid-19 on the Episcopal Church TryTank Experimental Lab January 23, 2017 at 1:44 pm Considering I have endured 8 years of hearing Barrack, our President, in The Prayers of the People. I never voted for him and oppose a large number of his policies, but I stayed in my seat as The Prayers of the People were read. Now, the time has come for my fellow Episcopalians, to show the same courtesy to Donald, our President, as I did for Barrack. When the Church refuses to pray for an individual then it no longer is the Church of Jesus. Rector Martinsville, VA Associate Priest for Pastoral Care New York, NY Howard Stringfellow says: Submit a Job Listing Pamela Payne says: Rector/Priest in Charge (PT) Lisbon, ME January 23, 2017 at 7:17 pm I believe that the point of the Prayers of the People is to call all of us as Episcopalian Christians to follow the leading of the Holy Spirit and to walk in the imitation of Christ. I did not vote for Donald Trump, but I will pray for him and for the leaders of our nation, that they, and we, will hear and respond to the call of Christ to see the Christ in others. And maybe, by so doing, we can help bring a better focus to this divided nation, to walk in love, to care for the poor and the marginalized, and to live Jesus’ call in Matthew 25. Assistant/Associate Rector Morristown, NJ Director of Music Morristown, NJ Marcia P Ebert says: January 23, 2017 at 2:29 pm Well said Dr Flint.But should we consider what a noted Episcopalian said in even more distressing times.“But I have never cherished toward them bitter or vindictive feelings, and have never seen the day when I did not pray for them.” Robert E Lee Can we do no less ? Margaret Nolde says: January 24, 2017 at 9:56 am I am so surprised that there are questions by Christians as to the purpose of praying for the President. Did they not ever ponder “Love your enemies”, “Pray for those who persecute you”? On a concrete level, does not a prison ministry reach out to criminals?I am also puzzled by the assumptions that all Episcopalians are of one party. Divetsoty and acceptance is the hallmark of the Episcopal Church. As a church, we are always striving and struggling to love all. I would encourage everyone who struggles to pray for our President to think beyond personal feelings and temporary distress and, instead, contemplate how to follow Jesus and live out our baptismal promises when an election doesn’t go our way. AddThis Sharing ButtonsShare to PrintFriendlyPrintFriendlyShare to FacebookFacebookShare to TwitterTwitterShare to EmailEmailShare to MoreAddThis Stephen Whitney-Wise says: Rector Belleville, IL Episcopal Migration Ministries’ Virtual Prayer Vigil for World Refugee Day Facebook Live Prayer Vigil June 20 @ 7 p.m. ET An Evening with Presiding Bishop Curry and Iconographer Kelly Latimore Episcopal Migration Ministries via Zoom June 23 @ 6 p.m. ET Featured Events Canon for Family Ministry Jackson, MS Missioner for Disaster Resilience Sacramento, CA Tags Frances Gresley says: January 26, 2017 at 12:01 am I understand that people will be traumatized speaking the name of their persecutor in prayer. I can only speak for myself. Three of my children are not heterosexual, one is disabled. I am very concerned for their safety and wellbeing under this administration. For me, however, speaking President Trump’s name in prayer, knowing that Christ and all the company of heaven pray with me, empowers me and strengthens me. For me, speaking his name in my prayers is an act of defiance against his perceived power over us…and an acknowledgement of God’s omnipotence…because with all the power President Trump has, he will never have the power to separate us from the love of God. Rector Tampa, FL Donald Churchill says: January 30, 2017 at 12:23 pm Is there a difference in praying for “our President” and “the President”? Mary Hooper says: Submit an Event Listing Rector and Chaplain Eugene, OR January 23, 2017 at 8:55 pm Agree with the president our not, it is inherently disrespectful to refer to person holding the office by last name alone. I’m embarrassed and ashamed of the absence of reason exhibited in the official and casual declarations being made in the name of the Church and of faithfulness to the gospel. Little discourse and an abundance of self-righteous judgmental proclamation based on superficial politically partisan rhetoric. Nominally Christian, at best. Pharisaical hypocrisy at worst. Sad. Bishop Diocesan Springfield, IL Associate Rector for Family Ministries Anchorage, AK Remember Holy Land Christians on Jerusalem Sunday, June 20 American Friends of the Episcopal Diocese of Jerusalem Rector Knoxville, TN Episcopal Charities of the Diocese of New York Hires Reverend Kevin W. VanHook, II as Executive Director Episcopal Charities of the Diocese of New York Virtual Celebration of the Jerusalem Princess Basma Center Zoom Conversation June 19 @ 12 p.m. ET January 25, 2017 at 1:21 pm Thank you to all who have taken the time to respond to what is, for many, a challenging situation. I was so disheartened, eight years ago, when prominent Republicans and conservatives saw it as there duty to work so that President Obama would fail. Although I cannot support President Trump’s behavior, I cannot wish that he fail; and so I will join in the voices at my parish in praying for our president, that he work for justice and peace in the world.